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| KlsHa |
| Posted: Apr 11 2004, 09:24 PM |
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dear team, after reading in this forum, I got the kick to retry AVS tools. Up to now, I use(d) VD, smart DI and smart SM. I have know tested with KERNEL_DI and PEACH and have to say, that the throughput is tremendous: 7 fps improved to somewhat about 28 fps. These results really force one to dig deeper.
The snag are now the AVS decombing filters; maybe I am wrong, but each of the tested tools has in sum a drawback against smart DI (VD). I tested Decome (Telecine resp. FieldDeinterlace) and Kernel DI. Here are my findings:
This is the link to the frame shots and the 2 avi's: http://people.freenet.de/KLAUSG-HANNOVER/a...avs_downld.html - DI-Test (Pic15) and Colo30 (Pic07); the jpg's are however taken from Mainconcept Codec and full quality
legend: smDI=smart Deint (VD); TC=Telecide; FD = Fielddeinterlace; KERN=kernel deint. a) .. d) ranking according the subject parameters: TC: Ord=0; Guide=2; Post=2; vth=45; dth=13 FD: Ord=0; thr=5; dth=17
Case A: The sequence 1) .. 5) refers to "DI-Test-PIC15.avi" (3.5 GB if needed, compression level 15) 1) frame 12: KERN is not bad, but has highest grain in this shot. TC shows slight colored specks; this effect already reduced with dth=13; with default settings specks with more color
2) frame 18 has a defect line within one or both fields. Telecide and FD do badly cope with this problem. KERN is perfect and smart DI not bad.
3) frame 21: FD and TC produce strong wawy (meander) edges at upper door edge; smDI is very good and KERN not bad. This issue is certainly important, because a lot of footage is with diagonal (<> 0 and 90 degrees) lines.
4) frame 26: SmDI and FD render a smoth door blade; TC and KERN show some artefarcts and tend to color stains;
5) frame 37: SmDI and FD render a smoth door blade; TC and KERN again show artefarcts and tend to color stains; FD produces rather good vertical door edges and lines (all together) KERN projects a dark vertical shadow on the left inner door blade edge.
Case B Another subject is either my bad understanding of TeleCide or we have another problem there: (taken from Colo-07PIC.avi, 1.6GB - higher compression) This footage requires post=0 setting to force progressive processing. Allowing postprocessing (POST = 2) results in a deinterlaced frames, which produce with this footage an ugly jumping of the doublelines at the train body. As I sometimes experience progressive footage with short interlaced intersections, I hoped for a kind of foolprove automatic with Telecide. But as I can see here: Telecide (post=0) would not help.
In my link you find the avi videos separately, the jpg's zipped according case A and case B and the avs files zipped - due to 1,5 MB upload limit, the case A units are in 2 rar files each :-(
Thanks a lot for your comments and guidance; as welI as for further enhancements in future.
Have a happy easter! /Klaus |
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| neuron2 |
| Posted: May 12 2004, 05:05 AM |
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Your application of Telecide (IVTC) to pure interlaced video shows that you do not know what you are doing.
I suggest that you learn the fundamentals before conducting shootouts.
BTW, there is an Avisynth port of SmartDeinterlacer.
Hope I am not too frank in my comments. |
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