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| DubbedOut |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 08:32 AM |
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I really love Virtual Dub. I'd even pay a small amount for this great program! I've use it tons & there is no better utility out there for what it does.
Now the problem: I'm stuck with W98 & fat32. Theres the 4GB file size limit that I can't go beyond. I'm also stuck with a certain program to capture movies from TV. The program only saves Mpeg1 video. The bitrate & resolution for the program (not configurable) are so high that a single movie is split up into several seperate mpg segments. Here is where the problem comes in. Currently I have to open each segment one by one, chop out commercials, frameserv each segment to TMPGEnc & then encode to DVD specs. Doing this for a ton of segments is rough & makes it very difficult, with a bunch of little windows open all over the place & me trying to keep track of what is going on.
I am really hoping SOMEONE can help me with a way to simplify the process. I've decided there are only choices available to me:
1) Use Virtual Dub to open mpeg-1 segments and append them like it does with a segmented AVI. The Vdub 1.4.10 doesn't work like that. If you open the first mpg segment, the 'append avi' is greyed out. I see no way to get the other mpg's added on to the end so I can see them in the editor & frameserv them all together. Am I missing something? This is definately my first choice and I would really appreciate anyone who can tell me how to do this. Keep in mind I can't simply 'merge' all the mpg's together with TMPGEnc then open it, due to the 4GB limitation. Each segment is 3900MB.
2) Use some kind of free & very simple tool to take the mpg segments, then frameserve them to Vdub. So that Vdub can open this served file and (with audio and video intact and synced) let me edit the file, then serv again to TMPGEnc. Obviously this is more involved & I only want to do this at last resort. I've looked around but the only options I see are complicated messes that require demuxing audio & video then doing all other kinds of time consuming tasks. Obviously not worth it for TV caps.
Plz help? Thanks!
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| fccHandler |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 05:08 PM |
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| QUOTE (DubbedOut @ Oct 28 2002, 04:32 AM) | 2) Use some kind of free & very simple tool to take the mpg segments, then frameserve them to Vdub.
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Have you looked into Avisynth? It's not "very simple", but with patience I think it will do exactly what you want.
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| DubbedOut |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 10:53 PM |
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Thanks for the reply. Yes I have checked it out but as you were saying it's a lot of complexity for what would otherwise be a simple job. The biggest problem I see with Avisynth is that I have to demux the audio from the video before serving it to VirtualDub? At least, if I'm not mistaken, that is what I had to do before when trying it out. When I do that suddenly the audio is out of sync & the whole process is left with non-synced audio/video. I might be too much of a n00b to fully understand the process though. 
If someone could please walk me through using Avisynth & is there a way to do it without demuxing or losing sync? |
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| chrome307 |
 Posted: Nov 4 2002, 12:26 PM |
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Hi there, correct me if I wrong but you want to capture from your tv card, edit the avi file and then encode the avi to mpeg1/2?
If so, that's what I do using my old Askey TView99 card BT848 card.
I set the tv program to the channel I wish to record and then turn it off and start Virtual Dub....Capture AVI.
I too, use Win98SE and had to set up a Capture Drive when I exceed the 2GB limit and it creates a second/third/fourth etc avi file.
Once I have the entire movie I tend reload the avi file back into Virtual Dub and edit the avi file chopping out the unwanted bits. Very quick using Direct Stream Copy (?) and then have several smaller avi files.
I finally load the avi files in TMPGenc Plus and then encode to Mpeg1, and then onto Nero Burning ROM to create my VCD's.
The process is easy enough and I can post details if required.
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| DubbedOut |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 02:22 PM |
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No, the recording is made as mpeg-1. The final output is mpeg-2. My capture software that I need to stick with for various reasons only captures to mpeg-1.
If the captures were AVI it would be easier to do what I want. I just wish Virtual Dub would treat the mpg-1 files like AVI and let me append segments on to each other. |
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 02:29 PM |
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Tell me if this helps.
Open yor mpeg sequences with Vdub and compress them using Huffyuv.
Append what you want and then recompress.
You also may try using Mpegjoin.
If your final format is going to be Mpeg2 you could try compressing several small files and try to join them with VirtualdubMpeg2.
Hope I understood.......
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| fccHandler |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 04:28 PM |
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Re-saving the videos as Huffyuv will work (a good suggestion actually), but beware it will take a lot of time and a lot of hard drive space!
To DubbedOut: Why do you say you are stuck with software that only captures MPEG-1? Can't you use VirtualDub to capture?
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| chrome307 |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 07:20 PM |
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Hi there, sorry misread your post kinda ;0)
You could try using VD with the XVid Mpeg4 codec or something similar to save on storage space on recording and editing. Once your finished you could load the file into TMPGenc and encode to Mpeg2.
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Nov 5 2002, 01:12 AM |
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No,no,no.
Converting to Mpeg4 an Mpeg1 source to finally encode it in Mpeg2 is not a good idea if you are looking for a decent quality. |
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| DubbedOut |
| Posted: Nov 5 2002, 04:28 AM |
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Thx to all who helped. I was 'stuck' in Mpeg-1 capture because I paid $50 for WinDVR.. And it only captures Mpeg-1 and Mpeg-2.. I didn't want to pay money for something else and also I couldn't capture Mpeg-2 since Vdub won't load it.
Anyways, I eventually had to give in and buy a different TV cap. app that records AVI. So the problems are solved. I still think VDub should import Mpg segments but whatever, I don't really need it anymore. |
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Nov 5 2002, 05:38 AM |
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Please Give a try to VirtualdubMpeg2 A.K.A. VirtualdubMOD.
It has a page at sourceforge. |
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| seavixen |
| Posted: Nov 7 2002, 12:05 PM |
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I think Paragon Software sell NTFS for Win98.
It might be a good idea to check their web for a trialware and see if you can get rid of the main source of your problem.
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| Kippesoep |
| Posted: Nov 7 2002, 12:26 PM |
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| QUOTE (DubbedOut @ Nov 4 2002, 10:28 PM) | | Anyways, I eventually had to give in and buy a different TV cap. app that records AVI. So the problems are solved. I still think VDub should import Mpg segments but whatever, I don't really need it anymore. |
Is there anything wrong with VD's own capture facility? If you enable multi-segmented capture, it'll automatically split. If you want to record on a timer, there's always VirtualDubVCR. Why pay for such a program? |
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| DubbedOut |
| Posted: Nov 7 2002, 02:34 PM |
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Thanks for the replies:
1) The NTFS for Windows 98 still does not go beyond 4GB files. The limitation is built into the OS itself, so even though the file system is capable, the OS won't write it.
2) Virtual Dub is good to capture, but there is no way to have it automatically start up at a set time, switch to capture mode, set all the customized settings I need, record for a specified period of time, and then close again. If there were a way to make it happen, I'd go for it. But for now I'll have to stick to 3rd party apps designed specifically for TV Cap.
PS: I did try virtual dub timer and from what I could see, you had to leave VD running 24/7 right?
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| Tut_Ank |
| Posted: Nov 8 2002, 08:43 AM |
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| QUOTE (DubbedOut @ Nov 7 2002, 08:34 AM) | Thanks for the replies:
1) The NTFS for Windows 98 still does not go beyond 4GB files. The limitation is built into the OS itself, so even though the file system is capable, the OS won't write it.
2) Virtual Dub is good to capture, but there is no way to have it automatically start up at a set time, switch to capture mode, set all the customized settings I need, record for a specified period of time, and then close again. If there were a way to make it happen, I'd go for it. But for now I'll have to stick to 3rd party apps designed specifically for TV Cap.
PS: I did try virtual dub timer and from what I could see, you had to leave VD running 24/7 right? |
VirtualVCR
http://www.digtv.ws
It might be all you need. |
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