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| Hitsuin |
| Posted: Dec 16 2014, 09:53 PM |
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Hi everyone,
I'd like to put some video on my brother's camcorder device, however, I can't get the camcorder to recognise the file. The camcorder will only accept avi, but not the ones I make. I've entered in the the same values I've got from gspot but it keeps saying "File failed."
Does anyone know how can I copy the save the exact file settings directly and where I can paste/import them so that the camcorder can playthem back?
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Dec 17 2014, 05:47 PM |
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Maybe you can tell us which these "values" are ?
You should find something about the video and the audio codec that has been used.
(for example Xvid, DivX, H264 for video and something like MP3, AAC, AC3 for audio).
If you open a sample AVI in VirtualDub, then look into the File-menu > File information...
Probably most chances are that the video and audio are not encoded/compressed at all (which results in large file sizes). |
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| Hitsuin |
| Posted: Dec 18 2014, 03:12 PM |
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| QUOTE (Abrazo @ Dec 17 2014, 05:47 PM) | | Maybe you can tell us which these "values" are ? |
Here are the values
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...1d1&oe=5542446B
I've I tried to match everything, to the point of downloading IMB's Motion MJPG
The last snag I hit is that the frame rate is 30.07780 but when I do it it keeps going to 30.07790.
What should I do? |
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| ALbino |
| Posted: Dec 18 2014, 07:03 PM |
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I tried doing this myself a few years ago with another video camera, and again with a pocket camera, and I never figured it out. I'm thinking there's some sort of flag that's not in the basic media info. Have you tried asking on forums specific to the camcorder? |
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Dec 18 2014, 08:56 PM |
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I suppose that the print screen that you posted is showing the values of a video that has been recorded with the camcorder in question ?
Thus, not the values from a video that you have created in the hope that it should play when it has been copied onto the camcorder.
So, we see that the video has been encoded with MJPG (Motion JPEG) and the audio is PCM Audio, 11025 Hz mono.
The AVI format is 1.0, the length is 14 seconds, and the file size is 8.713 KB.
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Based on these values, you should re-encode a video with VirtualDub in the following manner:
- in the Video-menu:
--> select Full processing mode
--> click Compression : select the MJPG codec
- in the Audio-menu:
--> select Full processing mode
--> click Conversion : set Sampling rate to "11025Hz", Precision to "No change", Channels to "Mono"
--> click Compression : select Microsoft ADPCM, 11,025kHz; 4 bit; Mono
- in the File-menu:
--> click File > Save old format AVI... and type a name that you like for it and save it to a place that you like
Especially, take care to save the AVI in the "old" format (= AVI 1.0) like I say in last line of my instructions here above.
That should be it. If it still does not work, then I have no more ideas. |
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| Hitsuin |
| Posted: Dec 19 2014, 12:41 AM |
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| QUOTE (ALbino @ Dec 18 2014, 07:03 PM) | | I tried doing this myself a few years ago with another video camera, and again with a pocket camera, and I never figured it out. I'm thinking there's some sort of flag that's not in the basic media info. Have you tried asking on forums specific to the camcorder? |
It pretty much is a pocket camera. I'm not sure how old it is though. I doubt it's new but it does have a HDMI port. It would look like a toy camera if not for that. I don't have the model and the make is pretty vague that it won't have forum. I think it a shop's own brand of camera. All it says id "TTS" on it. I would have the details for it but it's a hand-me-down my brother got. |
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| Hitsuin |
| Posted: Dec 19 2014, 10:23 AM |
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| QUOTE (Abrazo @ Dec 18 2014, 08:56 PM) | I suppose that the print screen that you posted is showing the values of a video that has been recorded with the camcorder in question ?
Thus, not the values from a video that you have created in the hope that it should play when it has been copied onto the camcorder.
So, we see that the video has been encoded with MJPG (Motion JPEG) and the audio is PCM Audio, 11025 Hz mono.
The AVI format is 1.0, the length is 14 seconds, and the file size is 8.713 KB.
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Based on these values, you should re-encode a video with VirtualDub in the following manner:
- in the Video-menu:
--> select Full processing mode
--> click Compression : select the MJPG codec
- in the Audio-menu:
--> select Full processing mode
--> click Conversion : set Sampling rate to "11025Hz", Precision to "No change", Channels to "Mono"
--> click Compression : select Microsoft ADPCM, 11,025kHz; 4 bit; Mono
- in the File-menu:
--> click File > Save old format AVI... and type a name that you like for it and save it to a place that you like
Especially, take care to save the AVI in the "old" format (= AVI 1.0) like I say in last line of my instructions here above.
That should be it. If it still does not work, then I have no more ideas. |
Lol, I was replying to you and fell asleep after checking again. I'd already done most of that including the AVI 1.0 to no avail but still tried again. I know a little bit about programming so I understand that the makers would have to put a little extra effort in designing it, maybe even pay some patents, if it were to allow for playback of other containers but it almost feels like they went out of their way to block anything the camera didn't make. If the avi doesn't have a SUNP prefix, e.g SUNP0001.AVI, files will not show up at all.
Thanks for trying to help! |
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Dec 19 2014, 11:30 AM |
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Thanks for the reply.
One last thing I was thinking about, is to verify the "fourcc" tags.
A little tool for this is the "AVI FourCC Code Changer" from INMATRIX.
> http://www.inmatrix.com/files/avic_download.shtml
You can check the fourcc of a camcorder recorded AVI-file and then bring it over to one of the AVI's that you made yourself.
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