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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Mar 29 2014, 11:49 AM |
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v0.8.1.3 [29 Mar 2014]
Fix another edge case with seeking getting stuck on a frame
The day after 0.8.1.2 was released, a failing file was sent to me
Sample .mts file had packets needed for a pts time scattered throughout the file
It's fixed now, but a file like that can be slow to decode as it was made so you have to read almost the entire file to get 1 frame of video
Fix doesn't affect speed of decoding files that aren't like that (I think it's a test sample made to try and break decoders)
On the other hand FFMpeg plugin is more robust at decoding bizarre .mts files
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| jpsdr |
| Posted: Mar 30 2014, 10:48 AM |
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I am, and have since a long time been able to directly open mkv in VDub. I don't realy remember when it begun to be possible. I think it's probably the DShowInputDriver.vdplugin, but i'm not sure. When i open an mkv, i can see the icons of ffdshow and haali's spliter.
I've tried, out of curiosity, your pluggin. So, i copied the files in pluggin directory of VDub, open an mkv file i've just opened before to check it worked fine, and when trying to open the file, VDub (version 1.10.5-test1) crashed :
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VirtualDub crash report -- build 35501 (release)
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Crash reason: unknown exception 0xc06d007e
Crash context:
An exception occurred in module 'kernel32'.
Thread call stack:
7c812afb: kernel32!RaiseException [7c800000+12aa9+52]
7c812afb: kernel32!RaiseException [7c800000+12aa9+52]
7c80e14f: kernel32!DuplicateHandle [7c800000+de9e+2b1]
7c801bfa: kernel32!LoadLibraryExW [7c800000+1af5+105]
7c801d72: kernel32!LoadLibraryExA [7c800000+1d53+1f]
01ef5675: FFInputDriver!VDGetPluginInfo [01ee0000+11b0+144c5]
01ef5398: FFInputDriver!VDGetPluginInfo [01ee0000+11b0+141e8]
01ee2be7: FFInputDriver!VDGetPluginInfo [01ee0000+11b0+1a37]
01ee39cd: FFInputDriver!VDGetPluginInfo [01ee0000+11b0+281d]
004f2745: VDInputDriverPlugin::CreateInputFile()
00475dfd: VDProject::Open()
00521354: VDAutoLogger::VDAutoLogger()
00461ecc: OpenAVI()
0047f741: VDProjectUI::MenuHit()
7e399488: USER32!GetWindowLongA [7e390000+945d+2b]
7e3a8d8b: USER32!DefWindowProcW [7e390000+18d20+6b]
0048dd70: VDUIFrame::DefProc()
00480ee3: _catch$?MainWndProc@VDProjectUI@@IAEJIIJ@Z$0()
7e399488: USER32!GetWindowLongA [7e390000+945d+2b]
00476ba0: VDProjectUI::WndProc()
0048e425: VDUIFrame::StaticWndProc()
7e398734: USER32!GetDC [7e390000+86c7+6d]
7e398816: USER32!GetDC [7e390000+86c7+14f]
7e3989cd: USER32!GetWindowLongW [7e390000+88a6+127]
7e3aa43b: USER32!PeekMessageA [7e390000+1a340+fb]
7e3996c7: USER32!DispatchMessageA [7e390000+96b8+f]
00460676: WinMain@16()
005fc5d6: __tmainCRTStartup()
7c817077: kernel32!RegisterWaitForInputIdle [7c800000+1702e+49]
-- End of report
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It's not a big deal for me. I notify you of this in case it's a pluggin bug, and not an incompatibility setup from my configuration.
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Mar 30 2014, 01:20 PM |
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Could be an FFMpeg bug
Virtualdub's calling VDGetPluginInfo, then a dll is being loaded (or attempted) and it goes boom
I'll pm you about additional information
Quick check though
When moving the plugin into virtualdubs plugins folder
The .vdplugin file goes there, and then the ffdlls folder is also copied there, overwriting any old ones
eg
virtualdub\virtualdub.exe
virtualdub\plugins32\ffinputdriver.vdplugin
virtualdub\plugins32\ffdlls\avcodec-55.dll
virtualdub\plugins32\ffdlls\avformat-55.dll
virtualdub\plugins32\ffdlls\avutil-52.dll
virtualdub\plugins32\ffdlls\swscale-2.dll
With mkv's there are three ways to open them
fcchandlers mkv plugin ->requires vfw and acm codecs
directshow plugin-> requires directshow codecs and a splitter (haali or lav)
ffmpegplugin->requires nothing
I use all three (daily, if just for testing) and they have their pros/cons
So far they've all been fairly crash proof
But they can fail in their own special way if fed damaged files
(general error types)
fcchandlers->virtualdub crashes
directshow->audio suddenly stops before end of file
ffmpeg->stops in infinite loop or avutil-52.dll crashes
Out of those three the one that's most common is directshow suddenly losing the audio
On the whole though it's pretty rare to see an actual crash
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Mar 30 2014, 04:14 PM |
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@jpsdr
I've found something that may be the same file you have - does it start with people on a train?
File size 779 MB (817,459,917 bytes), MD5hash 3D9A65F8D957192D9E07B16E4A1732BB
If so, it loads fine
It did prompt me to add an test/messagebox for missing dll's in the next version though
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| jpsdr |
| Posted: Mar 31 2014, 08:08 AM |
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When there is several pluggins which can handle mkv, when i open the mkv only with File->Open Video File, and selection file is on "all" (and "ask for extended options" not checked), which one wins ? |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Mar 31 2014, 10:30 AM |
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Normally the most format specific one
Each plug in has a chance to check the filename and examine the start/end of the the file
It reports back a value to virtualdub about how well the file matches what it can decode for both of those (the filename match being less important)
Specific plugins usually report a higher score than general purpose ones
eg the mkv plugin scores itself highly for mkv's and zero for everything else
It's a score that could be included in the options though
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Mar 31 2014, 09:37 PM |
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For anyone with Xp, it looks like the ffdlls are a bit broken at the moment (requiring vista+)
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/forum/viewtopic.....php?f=7&t=1889
"the procedure entry point InitializeConditionVariable could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll"
These ones work on xp
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/sha...win32-shared.7z
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| jpsdr |
| Posted: Mar 31 2014, 10:25 PM |
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Tested beta 3, worked fine. Thanks. |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Apr 1 2014, 02:07 PM |
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V0.8.1.4 beta 4
beta 1
Error dialog box if dll's are missing
Timeout for decoding video/audio frames of 2 minutes so job's don't get stuck on queue
Reporting decoding errors back to virtualdub
Report error on discontinuity
Larger maximum index size for seeking
beta 2
Fixed bug in beta 1 that totally broke seeking with some formats - my bad
Better seeking to first frame, fixed bug that was only obvious because of previous problem - serendipity!
beta 3
Replaced dll's with ones that work on windows xp
beta 4
More accurate discontinuity handling, will backtrack further through the file before giving up on a missing frame
Remembers how far it's previously had to backtrack when seeking and uses that (up to a max of 256 frames, then starts dynamically seeking backwards)
These two reduce discontinuity errors while improving seek times, betas 1,2 and 3 were a bit too eager to report problems
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Apr 1 2014, 07:40 PM |
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Thanks for all your hard work dloneranger !
Just a little remark : please take care for the file-"Path" into your ZIP files ...
It has become ffmpegplugin\win32\ffdlls instead of plugins32\ffdlls (similar note for 64-bit)
this can mislead the newbies ... |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Apr 1 2014, 07:42 PM |
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| QUOTE | | Just a little remark : please take care for the file-"Path" into your ZIP files |
Doh, glad someone's keeping me on my toes
I'm so used to working with the compilers paths, I didn't notice
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Apr 5 2014, 08:38 PM |
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V0.8.1.4 beta 6
beta 1
Error dialog box if dll's are missing
Timeout for decoding video/audio frames of 2 minutes so job's don't get stuck on queue
Reporting decoding errors back to virtualdub
Report error on discontinuity
Larger maximum index size for seeking
beta 2
Fixed bug in beta 1 that totally broke seeking with some formats - my bad
Better seeking to first frame, fixed bug that was only obvious because of previous problem - serendipity!
beta 3
Replaced dll's with ones that work on windows xp
beta 4
More accurate discontinuity handling, will backtrack further through the file before giving up on a missing frame
Remembers how far it's previously had to backtrack when seeking and uses that (up to a max of 256 frames, then starts dynamically seeking backwards)
These two reduce discontinuity errors while improving seek times, betas 1,2 and 3 were a bit too eager to report problems
beta 5
Better use of keyframes when seeking
Avoid some seeking when the frame you're seeking to is so close we may as well just wind forwards
Fixed an edge case seeking problem when moving to a keyframe and then going back 1 frame
Error handling option for allowing an occasional missing frame - replaced by the last good frame
eg this will allow frames 1,2,3,4,5,bad,7,8,9,10 -> 1,2,3,4,5,5,7,8,9,10 without stopping an encode
beta 6
Better fps detection
Some better handling of decoding errors
Modified missing frame detection a bit to reduce false error detection
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| -vdub- |
| Posted: Apr 11 2014, 01:21 AM |
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Is there any code change that can be made so it works like FFmpeg binaries. So it doesn't decode everything but looks at Virtualdub more when user need Direct Audio or Video copy it does just that
I noticed but unable to find comment you made about having a user selectable setting so each video loaded can be loaded always using FFmpeg Driver. This is good and would help to make Virtualdub vastly improved. But still the need for Direct Copy is needed as FFmpeg binaries can do and like other Virtualdub Plugins able to do
That said if able to make adjustments so Direct Copy is able to be done and Able to set FFmpeg Driver to load all Videos. The other problem disappear such as we can again use Batch Wizard to multi load videos that are not avi. More process more use for Virtualdub more users for Virtualdub
If not could you or someone have a look at fcchandlers Qucktime code. To see if is possible to add code so it has option load all videos as default. Since fcchandlers Quicktime already has the ability to Direct Copy Video and Audio |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Apr 11 2014, 05:12 AM |
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Direct stream copy mode -> I have no idea how you would get that to work with the way this plugin works, directshow plugin also doesn't do direct stream copy mode
I was going to see if I could make the priority of this plugin user selectable, but the sdk doesn't let you
It's a hard-coded number that virtualdub reads from the plugin, so you can't change it as you like
There's another priority system, but that's a no go as well, as first you have to supply a byte sequence that virtualdub matches in the source file (also hard coded into the plugin file)
(virtualdub does those checks without loading the plugin, so you don't even get a chance to be involved)
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| -vdub- |
| Posted: Apr 11 2014, 07:58 PM |
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Direct Copy I guess those that can do so outweighs the very few those that can't. What I meant was as other plugins are able to and that FFmpeg binaries are able to then would follow that FFmpeg Input Driver should also able to do Direct Copy video and audio. It what will make this plugin as good as those that can Direct Copy so then we will be looking to Phaeron to add this below
As many plugins will never be updated but still can be used. If Phaeron were to add a user selectable setting to always load files with a plugin the user need always to load files with |
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