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How To Open Non-avi Files In Virtualdub?, or how to use the input plugin system?
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Abrazo
Posted: May 23 2013, 07:50 PM


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I suppose you have installed FFMpeg inputdriver plugin (FFInputDriver.vdplugin) in the plugins32 folder of VirtualDub.
(it was not yet there in your print screen)

Now you start VirtualDub and click File > Open Video File.
When in the "Open Video File" dialogbox, first select the file you want to open (one single click on it, I mean: do not double-click !)
Then at "Files of type" : select FFMpeg supported files.
Now click the "Open" button.

Does this work ?
 
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pigglebee
Posted: May 25 2013, 08:04 PM


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QUOTE (Abrazo @ May 23 2013, 07:50 PM)
I suppose you have installed FFMpeg inputdriver plugin (FFInputDriver.vdplugin) in the plugins32 folder of VirtualDub.
(it was not yet there in your print screen)

Now you start VirtualDub and click File > Open Video File.
When in the "Open Video File" dialogbox, first select the file you want to open (one single click on it, I mean: do not double-click !)
Then at "Files of type" : select FFMpeg supported files.
Now click the "Open" button.

Does this work ?

Yes, this actually work thanks! The only downside of this is that I can't really browse fast through the file. Normally I use shift+cursor keys to jump from [K] to [K] frame, but opening it the way you describe causes every single frame to be a keyframe. Using alt+cursor jumps 50 frames, but when keeping it pressed, the movie freezes until you let it go. I assume the 'reconstructing'bar which normally appears when loading a file fixes the proper keyframes/index?
 
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nicoma
Posted: Aug 13 2013, 03:40 PM


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Hello,
I have one question about appending videos if I can get any help it would be nice.

I have installed directshow input plugin (as written in the first post) and can now play MP4 vids fine. However, it seems that VDub will append only .avi files : when I have a MP4 video opened, the menu->file->append a video is grayed

I thought of converting my MP4 to avi (using VDub) and append those .avi obtained, but then VDub gives me a black box when opening the .avi file it itslef produced, which I find weird...

Could you help me fix this? I just would like to work with VDub on MP4 files and be able to append them.

Thx!
 
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Abrazo
Posted: Aug 13 2013, 08:51 PM


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Actually with VirtualDub you can only append AVI videofiles.
So, if you like to append two ore more MP4 files via VirtualDub, you will first have to convert each one of them to AVI.

Now, you say that a file that you converted from MP4 into AVI shows like a black box.
I suppose that all following frames also show as black ?

What codecs did you set for Audio and Video encoding in respectively the Audio and Video-menu at Compression... ?
When you play the MP4 file via the Output playback button, does it show correctly in the right (output) pane or does it show as black ?

Which version of VirtualDub do you have installed ?
Normally the stable version, i.e. version 1.9.11, should not give this kind of problem.
 
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malky
Posted: Aug 13 2013, 09:07 PM


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Alternatively, use avisynth and a script.
CODE
part1=audiodub(ffvideosource("p1.mp4"), ffaudiosource("p1.mp4")).lanczosresize(448, 360)
part2=audiodub(ffvideosource("p2.mp4"), ffaudiosource("p2.mp4")).lanczosresize(448, 360)
part3=audiodub(ffvideosource("C:\Users\Superuser\Desktop\p3.mp4"), ffaudiosource("p3.mp4")).lanczosresize(448, 360)
return part1+part2+part3


# download and install AviSynth http://sourceforge.net/projects/avisynth2/
# download the required plugin, http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegsource/down...rc1.7z&can=2&q=
# and unzip the file ffms2.dll to the Avisynth/plugins folder.
# Haali splitter may also be required to be installed
# http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Haali-Media-Splitter
# resizing the source width so that it's divisible by 4 may be required.
# example, the resolution of my clips was 550 x 360, add .lanczosresize(448, 360) to each line.
# copy the code lines into NotePad and save the file as append.avs (instead of append.txt)
# If the .avs script is not in the same folder as the source .mp4 files, the complete path must be shown.
# example (ffvideosource("C:\Users\Superuser\Desktop\p3.mp4") instead of ("p3.mp4")
# open the avs file in VirtualDub
 
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nicoma
Posted: Aug 14 2013, 07:21 AM


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Thank you for your answers.

The problem was that I had installed another plugin (quicktime plugin) after the file conversion from MP4 to avi and for some reason it prevented VDub from reading MP4 files... removed the plugin, problem solved. But still it is weird that the quicktime plugin acts this way.

Yet another question
I read that I must choose a compression if I don't want my files to weight several GB when saving, OK. I use Xvid MPEG-4 codec, I don't know much about it but think it is quite OK.

My question is : will the quality of my video decrease everytime I save it with this compression, like it does for pics with JPEG compression? I'd like to work as much as possible on raw material until I finish my work and finally add a compression to the final result, can I do that?
 
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Abrazo
Posted: Aug 14 2013, 07:59 PM


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Indeed, practically all codecs are "lossy", what means that every time you (re)compress the video you will loose (a little bit of) quality.

While working on video, you can temporary use a "lossless codec" like Lagarith:
> http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

Once the video is final, you can compress it with Xvid or x264vfw:
> http://www.xvid.org
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/files/
 
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Posted: Oct 13 2013, 05:39 AM


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SUCCESS with .MP4 and .MOV in VirtuallDub 64-bit! It is running Deshaker about twice as fast as 32-bit VirtualDub does.

* Installed ffdshow ***64-bit***, rev. 4515 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tr...4-bit%20builds/, -- check boxes for VfW and VirtualDub application plugin during installation.

In the plugins64 folder of the VirtualDub folder:

* Installed Haali media splitter, (Matroska64.vdplugin) from http://haali.su/mkv/

* Installed QuickTime64.vdplugin from http://gral.y0.pl/~fcchandler/

Also --from mirror site http://gral.y0.pl/~fcchandler/ as fcchandler's site is down:

* AC364.vdplugin

* FLIC64.vdplugin

* FLV64.vdplugin

* WMV64.vdplugin

* DShowInputDriver from http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act...=ST&f=7&t=15093 (I had some success opening .MP4s with this earlier. Just keeping it in case...)

Also installed outside the VirtualDub folder:

*x264vfw, 32-bit, x264vfw_38_2274bm_36885.exe from http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/fi.../stats/timeline -- don't know if this does anything but it doesn't hurt.

* Xvid codec (which I use when encoding in VirtualDub) from http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html

* ffmpeg-20131010-git-996c734-win64-static -- three files in this archive, don't know whether this is necessary but it doesn't hurt, from http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

* QuickTime 7.7.4, from Apple -- I bought the Pro license so I could use it to edit, but that is probably unnecessary.

* Canopus codec which opens DV files from an old Canon camera -- http://www.moviecodec.com/downloads/file.php?id=184

* AAC ACM and AC3 ACM codecs from http://gral.y0.pl/~fcchandler/

None of this is interfering with the 32-bit VirtualDub installation which also is running on my machine.
 
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Posted: Oct 13 2013, 07:55 AM


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QUOTE (jsallen @ Oct 13 2013, 05:39 AM)
fcchandler's site is down

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fcchandler/files/

  • Virtualdub Wmv Plugin
  • Virtualdub Quicktime Plugin
  • Virtualdub Mpeg2 plugin
  • Virtualdub Matroska plugin
  • Virtualdub Flv Plugin
  • Virtualdub Flic plugin
  • Virtualdub Ac3 plugin
  • Ac3Acm Codec
  • AacAcm Codec
  • SetupLameMp3acm_X86_X64.zip
 
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Posted: Oct 14 2013, 05:31 AM


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I can open an MTS file with ffinputdriver 0.7 or 0.8 but with problems.

File is interlaced 1440 x 1080, 16 x 9 aspect ratio from Canon Vixia RF300 camcorder

Playback on a Dell XPS 360 with Intel Core2 Quad 9450 processor and dual NVidia 9800 GT graphic cards is slow, with pulsing audio. Playback slows when more apps are open.

When I stop playback or close VirtualDub, it crashes.

Same behavior with VirtualDub 64-bit 1.09.10 and 10.10.4 beta.

File plays perfectly in Windows Media Player under Windows 7 Home Premium.

How to resolve problem?
 
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meowmeow
Posted: Oct 14 2013, 10:50 PM


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QUOTE (jsallen @ Oct 14 2013, 05:31 AM)
slow, with pulsing audio.

Try setting "render pipelining" in "options - performance..." to a minimum, telling CPU to work in current time. Might give slower encoding.

Don't know what to do with crashes. Drive safe wink.gif
 
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Posted: Oct 14 2013, 11:59 PM


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Tried the render pipelining -- still runs slow. I've stopped play a couple of times and closed VirtualDub with the file open, and no crash though.

It might work OK on my faster computer when I get it back from repair, though this one is no slowpoke.
 
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Posted: Oct 15 2013, 06:39 AM


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H.264 1920x1080@60 for unfiltered preview with a fast Q6600@2400MHz
how to archieve:
  • "drop frames when behind" in VirtualDub options menu check
  • disable decoder in x264vfw compression settings (one CPU core isn't enough) check
  • if not helps, tweak video decoder, restart VirtualDub
  • tweak other features meowmeow forgot
 
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Posted: Feb 11 2014, 04:39 PM


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I am using VD only for the "deshaker".

For opening mp4 I had installed the right plugins.
Since I got better cameras with good IOS I used it rarely

Now I got a new lumia 720 phone with very good sound and video - but no IOS.
I could not open the mp4 files with my old VD setup.

I found this new setup for VD (latest version 1.10.4)
- install the codec "x264vfw" on the computer:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/
- convert mp4 files to avi before editing in VD with "mp4cam2avi":
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4cam2avi/

You don't need any more plugins in VD. Just have to convert first, but mp4cam2avi works VERY fast with good results.
Compression with x264vfw is effective and quality looks good to me.
Overall quality with "deshaker 3.0" is fine, very good stabilisation of shaky video, almost like a much more expensive lumia with IOS.
 
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Abrazo
Posted: Feb 11 2014, 05:54 PM


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To open MP4 directly via VirtualDub you should need:
- Quicktime plugin
- X264vfw video-codec
- AAC acm audio-codec
that you can find here : http://sourceforge.net/projects/fcchandler.../?source=navbar

Only take care to use 32-bit or 64-bit versions corresponding to your VirtualDub installation.

Installation of the QuickTime plugin goes by opening the ZIP-file and extracting the QuickTime.vdplugin file to the Pluginsxx subfolder of your VirtualDub installation... nothing more.

When in the "Open Video File" dialogbox of VirtualDub, select the *.MP4 file, then at "Files of type", select "QuickTime files", and click the Open-button.

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An alternative to this, would be the installation of the FFMPeg inputdriver plugin, that you can find here:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdub...peginputplugin/

Installation is quasi the same as for the QuickTime plugin, but you must also take care to extract the ffdlls subfolder with its content to the Pluginsxx subfolder.
 
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