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| G-Force |
| Posted: Aug 29 2011, 03:51 AM |
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Ok so I'm going to need your help with a simple issue but I just can't seem to get an appropriate solution going.
All I want to do is take an mkv file and make a 2 minute clip of it. I tried downloading the plugins listed here and placed them in the plugin folder but I simply get an error message. I went and downloaded avi synth and made a script using avimod in which case it's able to be opened by Virtualdub but when I click play the slider doesn't move at all and remains stuck. If I were to open it in virtualdubmod I do get a smooth playback but no audio is heard in the preview or after I make the clip.
Also I noticed that sometimes my video will have subtitles and other times subtitles will not appear. How do I toggle this feature? I would love to be able to make "raw" versions of the clips I'm editing. |
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| Placio74 |
| Posted: Aug 29 2011, 05:42 AM |
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| QUOTE (G-Force @ Aug 29 2011, 05:51 AM) | | All I want to do is take an mkv file and make a 2 minute clip of it. ... |
With or without recoding?
| QUOTE (G-Force @ Aug 29 2011, 05:51 AM) | | ...I tried downloading the plugins listed here and placed them in the plugin folder but I simply get an error message. ... |
Exactly which plugins and what error message?
| QUOTE (G-Force @ Aug 29 2011, 05:51 AM) | | ...I went and downloaded avi synth and made a script using avimod in which case it's able to be opened by Virtualdub but when I click play the slider doesn't move at all and remains stuck. If I were to open it in virtualdubmod I do get a smooth playback but no audio is heard in the preview or after I make the clip. ... |
Without any other audio problems (such as lack of 'system' sounds)?
What is content of Avisynth script?
| QUOTE (G-Force @ Aug 29 2011, 05:51 AM) | | ...Also I noticed that sometimes my video will have subtitles and other times subtitles will not appear. ... |
You mean, when import through Avisynth (DirectShowSource)?
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| G-Force |
| Posted: Aug 29 2011, 02:32 PM |
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Thank you placio for taking the time to reply to me.
1. I don't know what that means. I would think that it's without recording as I don't intend on adding footage or audio and I'm just clipping the video.
2. The plugins I downloaded were the Directshow Input Driver (which was placed in the plugin folder) when I tried to open the mkv file in VirtualDub it said that the file was of an unknown or unsupported file type.
3. No other audio errors surfaced. The contents of the avisynth script is just a single line of "DirectShowSource" along with the file name.
4. Exactly. I remember not seeing any subtitles when I first made the clip then by checking one of the oxes (I forgot which one) the subtitles later appeared. I wish to know to replicate these results. |
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| Placio74 |
| Posted: Sep 6 2011, 10:32 AM |
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This may mean that you have not installed required appropriate DirectShow filters.
But... through DirectShow import driver (or Avisynth), VirtualDub gets uncompressed audio and video. So, then You can save A/V as uncompressed or must encode/compress using some codecs.
Try fccHandler's Matroska plugin with required appropriate VfW and ACM codecs (for example: x264vfw or ffdshow VFW for AVC video and fccHandler's AAC ACM Codec for AAC audio).
Or try Avidemux.
Or try splitting (in global tab) in mkvmerge (a bit uncomfortable, but...).
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 08:27 AM |
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Hi everyone, total newbie here.
I have downloaded VirtualDub (32bit) and have installed ffdshow. I have also copied the vfd file to my plugins folder.
I am still unable to open video files with VirtualDub. I'm sure I'm probably doing something wrong, so here;'s my questions:
1. After installing ffdshow, and after copying the vfd file to the plugins dir, shouldn't I be able to open MPG-2 and .M2TS files?
2. Is there a complete list of steps to install and configure VirtualDub?
3. How do I properly iopen these files.
It's embarrassing to be this lost, but VirtualDub and all its power is extremely archaic to get used to and I need someone to bail me out by pointing me in the right direction.
My only need is to be able to resize/crop existing M2TS files into different dimensions, and it looks like VirtualDub is the only utility that does that.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide on getting me up and running,
Highwinder
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| ale5000 |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 01:16 PM |
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Remux the m2ts file to mkv with MKVToolnix (it is fast and quality remain the same).
Then open the mkv in VirtualDub with this:
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 03:20 PM |
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ALE500, thanks for the reply.
Can I not work directly with M2TS files (do I HAVE to convert them to MKV)? It's been my (very limited) experience that there's really no such thing as a truly lossless conversion. I'm also interested in avoiding a potentially unnecessary additional hassle if at all possible.
I am a complete noob, so what is the CORRECT and COMPLETE process for adding required codes and drivers to VirtualDub? It seems like this can turn into a complete mess, which I want to avoid. I installed FFDSHOW, and added the file to the plugins folder, but I see no differenc ein what kind of files I am able to open in VirtualDub.
Are there special tricks to installing all of this and getting it working?
Assume for a moment that I know practically NOTHING about proper codecs and their proper method of installation in VirtualDub, so that's why I'm here groveling to the gurus.
I really appreciate this assistance, VirtualDub is the only utility out there than can edit video files the way I need to, but I'd much rather work directly with M2TS files if at all possible. From what I have read, it looks like I should be able to.
Also: Can anybody tell me if they have good codecs/drivers for the 64-bit version? Would MUCH rather use that if I can - the files I'm working with can get pretty big.
Epic Mucho Thanko,
Highwinder
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| ale5000 |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 04:03 PM |
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Remuxing isn't a conversion.
It just change the container format, the video and audio remains the same.
Probably the FFmpeg Input Driver can open it directly but the direct stream copy in VirtualDub won't work.
List of input plugins and codecs: http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act...=ST&f=7&t=19488
PS: If you use 32-bit VirtualDub then you should use also 32-bit input plugins and VFW/ACM codecs othewise 64-bit input plugins and VFW/ACM codecs.
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 09:56 PM |
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Thanks again for your reply, good info, thanks!
Ok, I'm aware that I need to use 32-bit or 64-bit plugins to match the version I'm using. BUT:
1. What is the proper way to install/configure the plugins?
2. Once they are installed, how do I properly open media files in VirtualDub that the plug-ins are supposed to support?
With all the suggestions and advice given by many, I still have yet to see a clear explanation of how this is supposed to be properly configured and used.
"You need this codec" is only the first half of the explanation. What do do with it and how to use it is the rest of the information I still need.
Again, your help is greatly appreciated. I cannot overstate my obvious noobness, so please forgive.
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| ale5000 |
| Posted: Feb 16 2012, 11:27 PM |
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For input plugins you just need to place the files with vdplugin extension in the plugins32 / plugins64 folder and they are automatically used.
VFW/ACM codecs are automatically used once installed, you just need to configure ffdshow-tryouts under ffdshow VFW interface (yellow icon) => Decoder => Codecs.
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 17 2012, 06:39 PM |
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1. "For input plugins you just need to place the files with vdplugin extension in the plugins32 / plugins64 folder and they are automatically used."
Ok, this part I get, easy. And thanks.
2. "VFW/ACM codecs are automatically used once installed, you just need to configure ffdshow-tryouts under ffdshow VFW interface (yellow icon) => Decoder => Codecs. "
This part I don't understand. I went to this menu - what is it exactly that I'm supposed to be configuring and why? What does this have to do with using VirtualDub?
Thanks again,
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| ale5000 |
| Posted: Feb 17 2012, 07:30 PM |
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When you install ffdshow-tryouts, some things are enabled and some others no.
In this menu you choose what to enable.
For example, if you want to open an mkv file with H.264 video and AAC audio you need the Matroska input plugin + enable H.264 in ffdshow-tryouts configuration (VFW) + AAC ACM Codec.
PS: In ffdshow-tryouts configuration "disabled" means disabled, all other values means enabled.
PS2: Here I'm talking about "normal" input plugins, FFmpeg and DirectShow input plugins are different.
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 18 2012, 01:29 AM |
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Man, I'm just having the worst luck in the world with VirtualDub and these MKV files (and MP4 and M2TS files as well).
VirtualDub says "missing codec" when I try to load them even though I have ffdshow-tryouts and the right 64-bit plugin installed. I see the file support in the open file dialog, so I know I got that part right.
I'm producing MP4 files with Cyberlink PowerDirector and converting them to MKV files with MKVToolNix. At least I'm getting that far, and Windows Media Player can play them all just fine.
But then its VirtualDub's turn. In VirtualDub, I just get a black screen with "missing codec", even though I have all the 64-bit plug-ins correctly installed and I can see all the different file formats in the open file dailog.
1. What is it specifically that I'm supposed to configure in ffdshow to get ANYTHING working?
2. Why is VirtualDub still puking on these files when even Windows Media Player is having no problems?
3. Can somebody maybe export their ffdshow decoder settigns so I can import them?
Heeeeelp!!! (pulling hair) - I've wasted a whole day on trying to get this mess to work.
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| ale5000 |
| Posted: Feb 18 2012, 05:27 AM |
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Windows Media Player is insignificant since VirtualDub doesn't use DirectShow codecs.
Inside VirtualDub go on File => File informations and post the results so I can know what codec is needed.
PS: You can open mp4 files directly with the QuickTime input plugin by fccHandler
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| Highwinder |
| Posted: Feb 18 2012, 03:36 PM |
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For MP4, MOV, and MKV, I get this:
Actual QuickTime Format: MPEG-4 AVC (avc1)
Decompressor (fourcc): Missing Codec (avc1)
It won't recognize M2TS files at all, VirtualDub throws an error.
Plugins loaded:
AC364
DShowInputDriver
FLV64
Matroska64
MPEG264
QuickTime64
WMV64
What I'd REALLY like to do is simply work with MP4 and M2TS files directly. (possible?)
I also just uninstalled ffdshow-tryouts, it somehow messed up the existing codecs on my machine (Windows, Xvid and Divx), it somehow broke Windows Media Player so it wouldn't work. Uninstalled ffdshow and everything's back to normal. What a mess. And this is rather embarrassing needing to have my hand held like this. But the help is appreciated.
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