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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 2 2010, 11:16 PM |
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Zero latency gave exactly the same speed results here as without
(it's a b-frame fix so the first frames don't appear green)
I never checked the virualdub hack though, as it's mainly for using the x264 encoded video in virtualdub - once it's encoded I don't usually put it back into virtualdub for a second go around
What's the decoder in your file information though???????
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 2 2010, 11:29 PM |
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btw the last version of x264 on the site is from 2010-08-18, so you might want to install that if you have an older version
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| evropej |
| Posted: Sep 2 2010, 11:35 PM |
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I reopen the files in vdub after converting them for deshaking.
Seeking is horrible so I figured I am doing something wrong since the h264 mov avhc compression seeking is so so fast.
I have the latest version of the codec.
The codec gives you advice to turn the hack on when incoding from vdub.
Also, the files have some dead time if you dont so the fix does work.
Is there a different version of h264 encoder I can use?
I want to move away from xvid since the project is dead and I get better compression with h264.
I dont know how people can use windows 7. I have the ultimate version patched with sp1 and still sucks. XP rules~!
Oh, the decompressor is x264vfw
Compressing the same file with xvid gives completely different results in terms of seeking. |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 2 2010, 11:45 PM |
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I can't fault win7 - beats the hell out of xp for me, I've never had a problem with it
Do you have ffdshow?
If so, try turning off the decoder in x264's config and turning on ffdshows. x264/h264/avc/etc in the ffdsow vfw config
Maybe that'll help
Don't know about other h264 for vfw - I only bothered installing this one to test your problem
Xvid isn't dead, more like 'done' there's not much left to do to it
Latest versions have added divx profiles and a few other minor things
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying about deshaker
You convert the video once, and then convert it again with deshaker?
Um...can't you just do it all in 1 go? Or use a lossless codec (that'll be faster but bigger) as the temp in between file?
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| evropej |
| Posted: Sep 2 2010, 11:56 PM |
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I typically go directly from 1280x720 mov files from my camera into a deshaked final version.
But when I record in1080i, vdub and deshaker dont work well - random crashing and so on.
So first, I convert them to xvid or x264. I used to go to uncompressed but I found that did little difference and took much longer because of file sizes.
Then the final step is editing content which sucks with x264. Thats why I am here.
I started to use the x264 codec because it gives smaller files.
I have divx 8, xvid and x264vfw installed. Nothing else.
Looks like the codec has its issues. Maybe to much information is stored in the temporal stream and rendering the current frame requires a lot of crunching.
As for windows 7, it works but its not close to xp. My xp machine is smooth and consistent. Windows 7 is another story. There are so many services running that I gave up trying to figure out what its doing. My biggest pet peeve is the random update reboot with no warning. So I dont use it. Oh, explorer blows as well. Not a fan of vista style file browsing. At the end of the day, to each his own. The only reason I try using it is because of the ram issue. |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:06 AM |
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x264 as an inbetween's gotta suck, it's so darned slow - but then again I don't have an i7...
I've put a vid up of you sample clip in my virtualdub, just seeking from place to place so you can see the kind of speed I get here - you should be faster than this
http://www.rapidshare.com/files/416736706/x264.avi
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| evropej |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:23 AM |
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I get the same seeking performance with xvid as well.
As for the Core i7, its not worth the money.
I would go back to a Core 2 Duo and higher clock rates rather than Core i7.
I am seeing 10% speed performance compared to my q6600 which I had before.
Not what its crapped up to be.
The best process was a Core 2 D955. That thing had thread isolation. A true dual core.
With Core 2 Duo and Core i7, thread isolation is non existent.
One thread can take my system down since they share processing.
Where my Core 2 D would only chew up a single core and leave the other for windows.
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| rjisinspired |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:25 AM |
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I go to the very end, click to go back one frame which is a black frame bit it seeks there instantly. Seeking is about 0.5 seconds at any random point in the clip. Appears to be only 2 keyframes in this video?
The last sample video you posted I can seek into it almost instantaneously. sweet. |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:26 AM |
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Flame? no, it just sounds very, very ill
You should kick my pc's ass
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2
Compare my athlon ii x3 440 to any i7 and I come off bad
I'd be wondering if one of the ram sticks has a bad spot above the 4gb range that's only showing up in the x64 os
You might want to see if limiting the memory to something like 3Gb with msconfig makes it stable
(boot tab->advanced options)
Or running the win7 ram test - just type ram in the start menu, it'll be on the list
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| evropej |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:32 AM |
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Some people just love windows 7 lol and some, well yeah.
Yeah, I noticed that even playing the file in windows xp is much much smoother.
I have the same machine setup for different operating systems thanks to quick restore with acronis.
I get the same performance with xvid files no matter what the key frames.
I am sure some video guru here can figure this out.
I built a machine like yours and did notice some slower performance for data rates such as fraps and game play.
Otherwise, the machine kicks but. I was thinking of building an AMD box to get higher clock rates but I guess I fell for reviews.
here are our two processors, like I said, not that great like its crapped up to be
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:37 AM |
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Check the post up one, I edited it while you were replying
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| rjisinspired |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:39 AM |
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I fall underneath the Intel P4 660. Mines a 631, lol, not even listed. |
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| evropej |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:41 AM |
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Windows xp can only page 3.24 gig due to 32 bit operating system. I am also running it on PAE. In windows 7, I see all six gigs. of ram. |
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:41 AM |
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| QUOTE (rjisinspired @ Sep 3 2010, 01:39 AM) | | I fall underneath the Intel P4 660. Mines a 631, lol, not even listed. |
Ouch 
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| dloneranger |
| Posted: Sep 3 2010, 12:45 AM |
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| QUOTE (evropej @ Sep 3 2010, 01:41 AM) | | Windows xp can only page 3.24 gig due to 32 bit operating system. I am also running it on PAE. In windows 7, I see all six gigs. of ram. |
Yeah, I was wondering if some of the ram above the 32bit limits might be a bit iffy
It'd only show up using an x64 os
Easy enough to force win7 to only use the same amount as xp for testing purposes
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