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Posted by: immortal7792 Sep 10 2008, 11:49 PM
is there a filter that can make a normally recorded video look like a movie from a DVD?

Posted by: stefmixo Sep 11 2008, 10:54 PM
Can you explain?
What kind of 'look' do you want to get exactly ?
(16/9 ? more stabilization ? shorter D.O.F ? (Depth Of Field, AKA : blur in the background) )
If you want a precise answer, you need a precise question. wink.gif

Posted by: immortal7792 Sep 12 2008, 03:08 AM
i mean like yea 16:9 and like that nice saturation and color they use in the movies.

Posted by: Loadus Sep 12 2008, 06:00 PM
There's something in the GPU filter section: http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=14597&st=15

Posted by: -SPM-Mad Sep 13 2008, 12:27 PM
Try to get familar wiht color-correction in general.

If you have no knowlege about it then pointing you to a color-corretion filter for VD is pretty pointless.


16:9 can be simply archived with a crop.
Stable video can be done with 'deshaker'.
Very high resolution, sharp image and superb contrasts can be done by spending ~ 2000-3000$ on a camera.

Greetings
-SPM-Mad

Posted by: freezer Sep 28 2008, 02:18 PM
The biggest misconception about the so-called "film look" by most people is that they think you can throw a bunch of filters on your video and it looks like film. That is simply not possible.

Film look heavily depends on:

0) write a decend story with interesting dialogs and plot, cast convincing actors
1) light the set like a movie
2) frame your image accordingly to movie style, shoot in camera manual mode, don't use shaky cam when not absolutely necessary, use a tripod, and for moving camera dolly, crane or steadycam
3) stage up the actors for the scenes, direct them
3) put professional make-up on your actors
4) use of interesting props
5) use of nice locations
6) record sound by booming it
7) know what you are doing
8) shoot progressiv mode if camera supports it or deinterlace later, use 1/48 shutter speed for 24p or 1/60 (NTSC) or 1/50 (PAL)
9) cut your movie like a pro
10) color correct

You see, a simple filter won't convert video to a movie...

Posted by: phaeron Sep 28 2008, 06:59 PM
Yes, but that's assuming you're looking at the video with the eye of a video professional. smile.gif

The frame rate difference alone makes a lot of difference. I've seen cases where people who have no experience with video can tell there is something different between 30 frames/sec and 60 fields/sec, but they're not sure what it is. Doing the telecine conversion alone would help a lot, I think, but the difficulty is that for this to work well here you'd need to shoot the video in 24 fps to begin with.

Posted by: arklight Sep 29 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (freezer @ Sep 28 2008, 08:18 AM)
The biggest misconception about the so-called "film look" by most people is that they think you can throw a bunch of filters on your video and it looks like film. That is simply not possible.

Film look heavily depends on:

0) write a decend story with interesting dialogs and plot, cast convincing actors
1) light the set like a movie
2) frame your image accordingly to movie style, shoot in camera manual mode, don't use shaky cam when not absolutely necessary, use a tripod, and for moving camera dolly, crane or steadycam
3) stage up the actors for the scenes, direct them
3) put professional make-up on your actors
4) use of interesting props
5) use of nice locations
6) record sound by booming it
7) know what you are doing
8) shoot progressiv mode if camera supports it or deinterlace later, use 1/48 shutter speed for 24p or 1/60 (NTSC) or 1/50 (PAL)
9) cut your movie like a pro
10) color correct

You see, a simple filter won't convert video to a movie...

been here before.....

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=14986&hl=

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=15165&hl=

no harm in trying.

very few free apps out there
can capture the high dynamic range of FILM.


Which is sad,it's a bit like painting with crayons
instead of oils.

So all your colour correction falls short at the last
step when it has to be captured in an image format
that can contain all the subltities you've created in
your new film like image.

So when you transfer it to film (checking those in the
know its appropriate stock for your needs),
it doesn't look right!

bring on Virtualdub Openxr i say!


Heri




Posted by: arklight Sep 29 2008, 01:52 PM
QUOTE (phaeron @ Sep 28 2008, 12:59 PM)
Yes, but that's assuming you're looking at the video with the eye of a video professional. smile.gif

The frame rate difference alone makes a lot of difference. I've seen cases where people who have no experience with video can tell there is something different between 30 frames/sec and 60 fields/sec, but they're not sure what it is. Doing the telecine conversion alone would help a lot, I think, but the difficulty is that for this to work well here you'd need to shoot the video in 24 fps to begin with.

Yeah, you don't have to know
anything about film or video
to tell it's somehow not
quite right!

The motion quality of film is much hard to
reproduce than the colour correction
in my opnion.

heri

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