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Unofficial VirtualDub Support Forums > General Discussion > Variable Long Delay Before Capping Start


Posted by: Northrop Apr 13 2004, 05:03 PM
When I press F6 in VirtualDub to start capping it lasts anywhere between 1 and 20 sec to start capturing.
I remember this problem from years ago, on another computer with, except for the Miro, totally different hardware, I tried alot things then but it disappeared without obvious reason.
Recently I reinstalled Windows 98 oem and the problem came up again, and before the reinstallation i could cap with no noticable delay.
When I run Filemon from Sysinternals I get a gap in disk access as long as that delay.
Also, my computer is very sluggish, almost doesn't respond within that delay.
Any ideas?
I can try various things but I hate that since my installation is now, behalve this problem, exactly how I want so I made some diskimages.

Posted by: rfmmars Apr 14 2004, 06:06 PM
If you remember, there are a host of speed patches that are needed. They are still on the Miro site. Make sure you are using the last capture program they released.

richard
photorecall.net

Posted by: Northrop Apr 15 2004, 10:45 PM
I use the latest driver 1.41a and virtualdub to capture since the included capture application is not worth a penny compared to virtualdub.
Also, a week ago i had no delay at all, with same driver.
It's a real pain since i mostly cap short parts to select later on frames from it, so if I need to wait 20 sec sometimes, I missed it!
There must be a specific reason for that delay, it's not less performance or so.

Btw, it seems the drivers for the Miro card are scattered around the web.
Do you know a specific url that contains updates or information?
I know Pinnaclesys but I 've seen differences in latest versions between English and German sites.

Posted by: Northrop Apr 18 2004, 04:17 PM
I accidently found how to solve it.
I had display problems (text corruption) in alot textediting applications and i tried replacing riched20.dll in the win98/system folder, and those problems were solved and i also discovered that the capping is now always instantly.
It was a dll delivered with win98 oem 5.0.152.0 and i replaced it with 5.30.22.2300 which is 422k instead or 292k.
I'm very sure this was the reason cause nothing else changed (i use harddiskimages when i start trying things).

Posted by: Northrop Apr 19 2004, 10:48 AM
Scrap my previous post. I'd better wait a day to cry for victory. sad.gif

Posted by: Northrop Apr 30 2004, 07:40 PM
I noticed following issues:
- After pressing F6 to start capturing, my system is not sluggish as I said but doesn't react on anything, mouse pointer freezes, even ctrl alt del combination does nothing, for anything between 2 and 20 secs.
- While capturing, when i scroll through an earlier captured video, I get lost alot frames, AND it doesn't matter if that earlier captured video is on the same drive i'm capturing to or on a different physical drive.
Despite that, i checked if DMA is enabled, I also downloaded a tool for the builtin highpoint ide raid controller (no raid used) which also stated DMA, which said Ultra-DMA mode 5 (ATA-100).
The same amount lost frames happen when i save a chunk to another physical drive (which is obvious i think).

So what can be the reason? This is the same pc, the hardware didn't change a thing, as before i reinstalled Windows 98. I installed the same drivers as before, actually I have them all ready on some drives in case of reinstallation.

A couple weeks ago I used the same drives, the same OS, the same background applications, I could capture virtually immediately, with no noticeable delay. Also, I could load and edit (cut) or save an avi in one instance of virtualdub while another instance is capturing, all from the same drive, and WITHOUT a SINGLE frame loss.
I really start to get annoyed by this, since I miss alot stuff or have incomplete clips.

While I'm waiting for capturing actually starts, VirtualDub says in the status bar (translated from Dutch): "Busy with settings for registration. Please wait."
When I stop capturing, and immediately start again, there is no delay.
When I change application and return to VirtualDub after a littlewhile then I have that 'random' looking delay again.

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