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captpixel
  Posted: Apr 2 2014, 08:05 PM


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wacko.gif I have been trying for weeks to correct the tiny size of my subtitles in the files rendered in virtualdub 1.10.4 using Win 8.1. Can anyone help me please.
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Posted: Apr 2 2014, 08:20 PM


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I'm not an expert in this area, but I know enough to ask:
* What format are your subtitles in (.SSA, .SBV etc)?
* What subtitle plugin are you using?
ffvdub (get ffdshow tryouts, check the virtualdub plugin option on install) has multiple size & font options.
 
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Posted: Apr 2 2014, 08:58 PM


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My subs have all been converted to ssa and the plugin is called subtitler.vdf. huh.gif
 
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Posted: Apr 2 2014, 09:29 PM


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here is a simple .SSA file:
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See how every "event" (subtitle) is marked with a "style?" (in this example, the two styles used are "R18" and "L24." Edit a style and you change all subtitles with that style.

If this tech talk scares you, use the excellent GUI Subtitle Edit to edit the styles.
 
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Posted: Apr 2 2014, 09:50 PM


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I use DivXLand Media Subtitler to edit and convert my subs. When I play my dramas with VLC Media player the subs are as I set them up, however, following the VirtualDub hard subbing session the subs are tiny. This has only happened recently as my subs were always perfect in size and rendering in the past. Could my codecs be wrong? Is there any setting in VirtualDub that could screw-up my output? I am now using Windows 8.1, could this be a problem? I think I was using Windows 7 when I last remember the output being right.
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Posted: Apr 2 2014, 10:00 PM


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These are questions for which I have no answers sad.gif Except "try ffvdub."
here's a little quick start guide to virtualdub+ffvdub+subtitles
(it talks about .SBV subtitle format, but otherwise it should be helpful)
 
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Posted: Apr 3 2014, 11:17 PM


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When the user needs option not to show subtitles will your hard coded subtitles video. Allow viewers to do that ! the answer mostly will be no it won't
When you need to make adjustment tweaks edits can you easily do that again. Without encoding again the video with hard coded subs ! no not possible

The best way is to make your own subs many subs workshop type software's are available. Even tools to convert to any type of subs file.

Which then would be the most preferred way to have subs so video editor and viewer are happy. That would be having external subs file such as text based like .srt or encoded such as used with dvd sub and idx or even use other as with bluray.

You don't need to have the subs totally external they to can be enclosed in the container file with the video and audio streams. Can be done for many containers such as avi using a multiplex (mux) tool or even mux the streams into an mkv video using an ui tool to do so. Then if the viewer doesn't want subs they can do just that with the player. You need to edit again the final video even after muxing, extract the video, audio and sub streams make adjustments and remux back a container you choose to use

Subs font size it makes no difference since the viewer can increase and move the subs to where they like using the player settings. Takes the headache out of trying to encode the video with subs and all the problems in doing so

Simple view of a video container. Take mkv but same can be applied to many other media file containers

MKV (a few media streams can be placed into an *mkv container)
|- Video
|- Audio
|- Subtitle
|- Chapters
|- Data
|- etc


More detailed information of video containers and what media streams can be placed in them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of...ntainer_formats


*MKV or any (many) other media containers to hold the video, audio, subs, chapters etc
 
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