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dloneranger
Posted: Dec 31 2014, 09:25 PM


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I've just tested the installer on 64 and 32 bit pc's - works fine



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Pral
Posted: Dec 31 2014, 09:52 PM


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Do you think I did something is wrong with my computer then? What else could be preventing the install of the program?
 
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dloneranger
Posted: Dec 31 2014, 10:28 PM


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Unknown, nobody else has reported a problem
Do you use the pc normally, or have you done some hacking of user account control (UAC)?

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Pral
Posted: Jan 1 2015, 12:17 AM


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Hacking? huh.gif No.

But before I restored my computer I had this weird virus that kept on giving me ads by sirus or something like that. I dont know how I contracted the virus. I couldnt get rid of the virus and my computer lost it's ability to restore to days before, so I just used the recovery disc that came with the laptop. Before I restored my laptop I've downloaded so many plugins and filters and so many programs over the years that when I finally downloaded virtual dub it was so simple to use I didnt have to do all these steps to get it to work. I dont know what I'm doing wrong or what I'm missing.
 
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Posted: Jan 1 2015, 06:41 AM


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Just checking, some people like to try every 'secret' registry hack they can find

You have a strange error with the installer
To be installed (on vista and newer) the installer has to be run as an administrator
The installer is marked as requiring admin, and windows should show the UAC admin warning when it's run
After you click yes, the installer is run with admin privileges
The installer then calls windows .inf handler with the same admin privileges it has
If the windows .inf handler isn't called with admin privileges you get that error
Now, that shouldn't be possible because the installer won't run without admin privileges
So I'm not sure how windows is forgetting that and trying to run the .inf handler as a normal user

That's something you'd only normally see on pc's that are owned by people who disable services and try all sorts of registry hacks
Or possibly have really crappy 'security' software on their pc
(or have had their OS damaged in some way - virus, bad hard drive, memory, overclocking etc)

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Pral
Posted: Jan 1 2015, 09:19 PM


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I dont know, because I'm not very knowledgeable with computers I dont think I've done anything like you said in the post, disabling registry or whatever. I'm the only one who uses this computer, my sister uses it the odd time. Maybe I tried downloading too many programs and filters to get the virtual dub to work? I've tried almost every filter and program I found on google huh.gif Do you suggest I bring my laptop back to factory settings and start all over? Thanks again for all your help
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 12:14 AM


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In a quest to get this program to work for me, I found this codec pack called "K Lite Codec Pack 1090" it prompted me to uninstall a bunch of other programs which I clicked "yes" to...then it said that some sort of driver is out of date with my computer called "windvista 1583" after I did the whole process the laptop restarted....


now the problem I have is none of the video files I open on virtual dub opens at all ph34r.gif I dont know what I did wrong sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif this is the message I get now. even in full processing mode the video is blank on playback, totally black screen
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My sis is leaving this weekend and I was hoping to make her a disc of videos she can play on her dvd player, but doesnt look like it's gonna happen when it looks like me playing around is messing up the program even more ph34r.gif
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 11:06 AM


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A little bit more information will maybe help you to better understand how to work with VirtualDub.

Videofiles have video (images) and audio (sound) information in it.

To reduce the size of videofiles, the information in it is (almost) always compressed with encoders.
So, you have video-encoders (for Xvid, DivX, H264, ...) and audio-encoders (for AAC, AC3, MP3, ...).

Once that the video- and audio-information has been encoded, they are (mostly video + audio together) put in a box, what is called a video-"container".
So, you have multiple container-formats, like AVI, FLV, MOV, MP4, MPEG1, MPEG2, MKV, WMV, ...).

VirtualDub, by default, has only the possibility to open files in AVI-format, and to compress/decompress video and audio on the hand of "Video for Windows" (VfW) video-codecs and "ACM" audio-codecs.
These kind of codecs (encoders/decoders) were default/standard at the time of Windows 95 and Windows XP, but have been replaced by other types of codecs (like DirectShow and Windows Foundation).

Thanks to input plugins (like DirectShow, FFMpeg, QuickTime, Matroska, FLV, ...) you can open other container-formats with VirtualDub, and you can also use more recent types of codecs.
Most of these plugins (not all) depend on (additional) video- and audio-decoders to be installed on your computer.

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Now, when you like to open a video-file, like an MP4, you first have to check that you have a plugin for VirtualDub that offers you possibility to open the MP4 container-format (like the QuickTime plugin) and secondly to check that you have a VfW video-decoder (for H264) and an ACM audio-decoder (for AAC) for it.
Only in these circumstances, VirtualDub will open that file correctly.

Eventhough, the most easy way to open different kinds of containerformats and different kinds of encoded video and audio, is to use dlonerangers' version of the FFMpeg input plugin for VirtualDub. This plugin has a subfolder with practically all needed decoders in it (in form of dll's).

Download and unzip the included files of the "VirtualdubFFMpegPlugin_0819.zip" to the plugins32 subfolder of your VirtualDub installation, and take care to also unzip the ffdlls subfolder.
(Note: if you have a 32-bit version of Windows and so, a 32-bit version of VirtualDub, then unzip the range of files for plugins32).

So you will finally have something like C:\Program files\VirtualDub\plugins32\FFInputDriver.vdplugin and C:\Program files\VirtualDub\Plugins32\ffdlls\avcodec-56.dll and four other *.dll's in it.

You can find the most recent version of "VirtualDub FFMpeg Input Plugin" (version 0.8.1.9) here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdub...peginputplugin/

To make sure that you use this plugin when opening a video-file in VirtualDub, via the File-menu > Open Video File, is to remove (at preference) the other *.vdplugin files out of the plugins32 subfolder of VirtualDub, and when in the "Open Video File"-dialogbox, at "Files of type", select "FFMpeg Supported files".

And, I almost forgot, to avoid the error "The currently selected output plugin ...", you should
- either set the Video- and Audio-menu to "Full processing mode" and - also in both the Video- and Audio-menu - select a Compression... codec.
- either work with files for which there is an input plugin that uses the native codecs to open the file
(like QuickTime plugin for MP4, with H264 and AAC in it) and then File > Save as AVI...
and if you like to play the file (when Direct Stream Copy is selected): only use the "Input Playback" button, not the "Output Playback".

When you like to make sure that you will create a DVD with video's in AVI-format that can be played at your sister's side, then (at preference) encode it with Xvid-video and MP3 (Lame or Fraunhofer)-audio, and when you save it, do use File > Save old format AVI...
> https://www.xvid.com/download/

Good luck.
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 04:55 PM


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Thank you so much for the detailed instructions Abrazo, really appreciate it!

I think because I'm clueless I'm downloading every single plugin and filter I come across and it's interring with other working plugins. Like for example I tried deleting some plugins and checking to see how it works and I would be able to get the video the open but there would be no sound. I would delete another plugin and I would be able to get the picture to open up but not play properly, like the video would lag.

Since I downloaded the codec lite pack I havent been able to get the videos to open up with any sound at all. I tried recovering the laptop to a couple days before, but it doesnt look like that reversed the effects. I'm going to start over, and cross fingers that it works. Honestly I remember using virtual dub years ago and it wasnt this complicated. Then this summer I used it again and it was quite simple too. It's one of the most hassle free programs out there. So it must be me playing around too much with random plugins and codecs that's complicating matters ph34r.gif
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 05:54 PM


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I do not know if you are still unable to install or uninstall things on your computer, but in my opinion it has no use to start all over again.

Just look into the Control Panel > (view by: small icons) > Programs and features, and look for anything that resembles to codec pack(s) and uninstall it.

After that, just download specific codecs like Xvid or x264vfw (H264) and install those ones (in case if you like to create new files).

And, if you take the time to read my previous information with a little bit attention, you will find out that the most easy solution for you, to be able to open any kind of video-file in VirtualDub, is to simply install the VirtualDub FFMpeg plugin, and nothing more.

 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 07:03 PM


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Maybe he could try putting his file into GraphStudio and seeing what's actually being used by the system:

http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/tools/monogr...am-graphstudio/
 
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Pral
Posted: Jan 2 2015, 08:25 PM


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@Abrazo - I tried following all the steps before deciding to restore my computer to factory settings. Since the last time I had to restore my computer I backed up most of my data to a portable so it wasn't much work. The first thing I downloaded once my laptop started up was google chrome, then virtual dub the newest version 1.10, after taht the setupAACacm so for sure I know it's not any other programs conflicting with the install but this is the message I got sad.gif :
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@Albina, thanks for the suggestion, but that program just looks into what is being used by system? Does it open mp4 files?
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 09:22 PM


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All information about this warning-message indicates that you do not have sufficient rights or permissions to your computer.

Do you have to log in when you start your computer ?
If not, is it possible to log out and then log in with an administrator account ?

If you can not login with an administrator account, then ... is it possible to do a right mouse-click on a program (*.EXE) and "Run as administrator" ?
If so, are you being asked for a logon id and a password, or can you simply click onto "Yes" to run it ?

Still another thing you could try to do is, click the Start-button of Windows (7 ?), and in the "Search programs" box (just above the Start-button), type "UAC". This should lead you to the "Change User Account Control settings". Move the slider down to the bottom (= Never notify) and click OK.

If you are using Windows Vista, then try this:
> http://www.home-network-help.com/requires-...-elevation.html
If the installation works by "turning off" the UAC, then you can "turn it (back) on" later.

Does that make a difference towards the possibility to execute an installation ?
 
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Posted: Jan 2 2015, 10:56 PM


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yayy installation of the setupAACacm worked! I followed the steps you had for vista. Do I need to find any filters to move over to the virtual dub folder? Or does the installation work on it's own?

Thanks Abrazo
 
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Posted: Jan 3 2015, 08:05 AM


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It all depends of what you are going to do.

If you are going to work with MP4-files and "Direct Stream Copy" towards AVI-files, then I think it should all work at this moment.

Normally you have the QuickTime plugin for opening MP4, you have ffdshow for decoding video (H264/AVC), and you now have AAC ACM for decoding audio.
 
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