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ale5000
Posted: Feb 20 2015, 11:16 PM


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What about starting a filename convention for better organizing the plugins folder?

Something like start input plugins with "in_" and video filters with "vid_" (example: in_FFInputDriver.vdplugin).
I know I can rename them manually but every time I update the plugins I should rename them again, I think it is better if everyone start naming in this way.

What do you think?

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ALbino
Posted: Feb 21 2015, 12:20 AM


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Why not just make your own folders called Input/Video/Whatever inside of the plugins folder and sort them that way?
 
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shekh
Posted: Feb 21 2015, 12:53 AM


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I was thinking of the opposite
In the "Filters" dialog i`d like to see "filename" column and sorting order by that, internal filters last. Introducing naming convention to filenames would waste such feature smile.gif
 
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ale5000
Posted: Feb 21 2015, 01:59 AM


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I'm talking about organizing the folder to see them in Windows (outside the program).
When you have like 50 filters and you update everything at hand is good to be organized smile.gif

PS: Subfolders aren't supported by VirtualDub, but filenames can be changed without any problem.

@shekh: What you are asking is still doable, probably I will create an app (outside VirtualDub) for showing filters in the preferred order along with version and internal name.


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Posted: Feb 21 2015, 02:09 AM


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QUOTE (ale5000 @ Feb 21 2015, 01:59 AM)
PS: Subfolders aren't supported by VirtualDub, but filenames can be changed without any problem.

You're right. For some reason I thought they worked, but I just tested it and they don't.

Maybe phaeron could add some sort of recursive plugin folder implementation for the next version, that way you wouldn't need the cooperation of all of the developers, especially since a lot of these plugins haven't been updated in 10 years.
 
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shekh
Posted: Feb 21 2015, 02:18 AM


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QUOTE (ale5000 @ Feb 21 2015, 01:59 AM)
@shekh: What you are asking is still doable, probably I will create an app (outside VirtualDub) for showing filters in the preferred order along with version and internal name.

Dont see the point for external program. Having filename in Filters dialog is easy way to organize filters: to put the ones most needed at top etc.

Where do you get 50 updating filters? Most stuff I find is from stone age.

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Subfolders aren't supported by VirtualDub

Some plugins need private space for dlls etc. If VD traversed subfolders, it would try every ffmpeg dll as a plugin, which is nasty thing.
 
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ale5000
Posted: Feb 21 2015, 03:24 AM


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What I'm saying is that changing filenames doesn't prevent other things since if the prefix is common it can be automatically "removed" on displaying.

I have a lot of filters here for future use, some are died but still working.

PS: VirtualDub works fine also with extraneous DLLs in the plugins folder but still is not nice for loading speed and organization (I was the one that suggested to put ffmpeg dll in a subfolder).

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Posted: Feb 22 2015, 07:19 AM


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If you had to count how many times or minutes you have spent navigating the filters list looking for the filter you need. I think rename the filter and also able to move the filters on the list to new positions for each virtualdub users needs or preference. remembered by Virtualdub for each restart maybe save in Virtualdub_Settings.ini or other virtualdub .ini file in virtualdub folder

Folders that we could have have folders virtualdub knows looks to. Sub folders in the Plugins folder or separate in virtualdub folder for dll, ax, acm, vfw, dshow this does sound interesting even if the dll could not be included for auto load but others could be auto loaded if those are selected to be in the settings. That then would be a true portable virtualdub that would please some or many virtualdub users. It would be like other software self contained for everything
 
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