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| Morsa |
| Posted: Sep 16 2002, 05:36 AM |
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You're right!!!
To implement transparencies would be many times more difficult than using PNGs without it.
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| Neo Neko |
| Posted: Sep 16 2002, 06:26 AM |
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That would more than likely discard the transparency. But most video codecs do not support transparency. For plugins though transparency would be supremely usefull. A propper integration of libpng and libmng would be best. |
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Sep 21 2002, 12:16 AM |
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Is there any license problem about getting Libpng into Vdub?
Or is it just a matter of pride?
Not trying to be agressive, just an innocent question :-) |
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| Neo Neko |
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Virtualdub is under a form of GPL IIRC. Libpng and the entire PNG format also under GPL. Honesly I don't think it is because of pride or conflicting licenses. How many people do you know that are aware of or knowledgable of PNG? More than likely most of em are running leet windows systems collecting MP3 and Jpeg files. To many people it is all buzz words. They only know what other people tell them. It explains alot in the world today. How what is called popular music can be popular when most of it is barely worth being called music and most of those credited with making it are rarely very if at all musical. How the most popular shows on TV are now cheap easy to produce so called "real life" tv fluff. No plots. No story lines. No educational value. No rewatchability. How all the popular anime is mostly worthless poor quality if any quality content at all that is pushed solely for someones ability to merchandise on it. If it does not have some sort of card game it is based on or based on it or there are not millions of overpriced cheap toys that can be made from it no one is interested.
Or maybe I am just a pessimist and people use Virtualdub pretty much for editing AVI and are unaware about its ability to even import BMP and output it as video let alone the advantages of PNG. |
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| Neo Neko |
| Posted: Sep 21 2002, 06:19 AM |
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| Sarreq Teryx |
| Posted: Sep 21 2002, 09:23 AM |
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| QUOTE (Neo Neko @ Sep 21 2002, 12:18 AM) | | How the most popular shows on TV are now cheap easy to produce so called "real life" tv fluff. No plots. No story lines. No educational value. No rewatchability. |
don't know how many people actually saw or liked it on here, but I'm pretty sure Doctor Who was a cheap (it was low-budget sci-fi, which most BBC sci-fi was back then), maybe not easy to produce, show, so cheapness doesn't even factor into the quality of a show, if the writing, direction and acting is good, it'll stick about a nice long time. Coupling, Red Dwarf (not really current is it), BuffyTVSlayer, Angel, Farscape, and Stargate all come under that category, whatever their budget.
I think crap like survivor, big brother, temptation island, the bachelor, etc (don't know any british or european originated ones) are only popular because the train-wreck-factor, you know it's you shouldn't watch it, but you can't look away.
as for dragonballZ, pokemon, digimon, yu-gi-oh!, etc. I have no idea why they're so popular. dragonball is usually just 1 or more full episodes of 2 guys staring each other down, proving who has the worst constipation (which I guess falls under train-wreck). pokemon/digimon/monster rancher/etc. are entirely too kiddy, and are the type of show that give TV the reputation of prepubessant brain-rot.
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| fccHandler |
| Posted: Sep 21 2002, 03:55 PM |
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This train is going off its track. 
For my 2 cents, I think PNG input/output support would only be useful to a minority of the people who use VirtualDub. But perhaps some programmer out there could write the code for it and present it to Avery Lee, and ask (beg, plead) to have it included in the next version of VirtualDub.
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Sep 21 2002, 06:57 PM |
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So do I.
Why don´t we start a Poll, just to know how many people will use PNG???? |
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| Neo Neko |
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Sorry to derail the train again. 
| QUOTE (Sarreq Teryx @ Sep 21 2002, 03:23 AM) |
don't know how many people actually saw or liked it on here, but I'm pretty sure Doctor Who was a cheap (it was low-budget sci-fi, which most BBC sci-fi was back then), maybe not easy to produce, show, so cheapness doesn't even factor into the quality of a show, if the writing, direction and acting is good, it'll stick about a nice long time. Coupling, Red Dwarf (not really current is it), BuffyTVSlayer, Angel, Farscape, and Stargate all come under that category, whatever their budget.
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Those shows all have a little thing we like to call a plot. Buffy and Angel might be a slight exception to that though. But I will forgive them because they are at least creative. Not one of those things where you get a group of people together and supposedly act normal while you shoot some cheap DV footage. That is what I hate. It is cheap. Zero creativity. Zero plot. Dr. Who was cheap but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
| QUOTE (Sarreq Teryx @ Sep 21 2002, 03:23 AM) |
as for dragonballZ, pokemon, digimon, yu-gi-oh!, etc. I have no idea why they're so popular. dragonball is usually just 1 or more full episodes of 2 guys staring each other down, proving who has the worst constipation (which I guess falls under train-wreck). pokemon/digimon/monster rancher/etc. are entirely too kiddy, and are the type of show that give TV the reputation of prepubessant brain-rot.
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Agree I do whole heartedly. If any of you have not seen puni puni poemi download the 2 episode fansub floating around. This is anime in the truest most perverse sense of the word. Zany action. Insane story line. Cheap shots at Japanese culture sprinkled all over. The second or third sceen has a crucified aibo for christs sake! And there are tons of gratuitous fan shots! If you like this check out the whole Excel Saga series that came before it. Nabeshin is great! Episode 26 is hillarious! Nabeshin, Pedro, Space Butler, and Nabeshin's war buddy(See Maytel) all bust into the stronghold of Pedro's antagonist. Nabeshin and the gang all power up and everyone elses hair flies up(turns gold ala super sayin) into giant Nabeshin afros. And they all finish the villan of with a giant kameha-meha wave. No one is safe from Excel Saga. Phear the parrody!
Also look for ippatu kikimusume. It translates roughly to short crisis girls. It appears to be Japanese commercial break fillers. They are only about 3-5 minutes long. Eliete Fansubs put them out a while back.
Oh and while we are on the subject of anime..... Anyone check out Avery/Phaeron's 404 page over at Virtualdub.org? He is a fellow Birdy The Mighty fan!
And now for something completely different. NI!
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Sep 24 2002, 05:34 AM |
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Well, seems that few people is voting at my Poll.
Whats happenning guys??
Please, come on and give your opinion!! |
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Oct 20 2002, 07:27 PM |
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PNG, without transparency support would be the first step.
The first advantage would be having image sequences in 60% to 75% less storage space without loosing quality, far better than Huffyuv, isn´t it?
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| Suiryc |
| Posted: Oct 22 2002, 05:13 PM |
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Hi
As requested by Morsa a few weeks ago, I added (or at least I tried) a basic PNG support in VirtualDub.
Now you should be able to :
- open a sequence of PNG files (transparency information will be discarded; all formats will be converted to 24 bits RGB)
- save to a sequence of PNG files (output format supported : 24 & 32 bits; using default compression method)
This is included in my VirtualDub mod (the one with OGM support, and also Belgabor's mod concerning AVS etc).
Nb : before yesterday I didn't knew anything about libpng (used for the PNG support) so maybe some things won't work prefectly 
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Oct 22 2002, 08:09 PM |
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GREAT!!!!!!! GREAT!!!!! GREAT!!!!!!!.
At last, a new path has been opened. Am I exagerating?
WELL DONE!!!!
I´m gonna try it right now. |
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| Suiryc |
| Posted: Oct 22 2002, 09:32 PM |
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Oops, corrected a last minute bug where some file types where badly assimilated as PNG ...
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Oct 22 2002, 10:08 PM |
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What is the bug?
Exporting and importing PNG works fine till my last test. |
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