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| poumtchak |
| Posted: Jan 29 2015, 10:33 PM |
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Ola, so I got to download VD 1.10.4 to delete a logo in a video. I'm running Win 7 x64 but as I read that the 32bits version of VirtualDub has more codecs, I chose this one.
The issue I came up with is I'm trying to open an avi file but it won't open (couldn't locate decompressor for format MP42). I previously changed the video format (from wmv to avi file) although I read wmv are allowed with a wmv plugin that I eventually downloaded and stored in the plugin folder. Note that I can open some other avi videos but not the one I want to use here. Can someone help me please?
EDIT: I forgot to mention I also downloaded CCCP but I can't figure out how to configure it to work with VD.
As I'm searching through the forum I found out someone having the same issue. Someone else advised him to install and configrue ffdshow. I don't have ffdshow, should I take it and uninstall Community Codecs Pack instead?
I also already downloaded and installed the mpeg4 codec MPG4VKI.inf but nothing more happens yet.
Donno if that helps but here is the Gspot review of the video I got: http://i.imgur.com/fq3RoAA.jpg
This post has been edited by poumtchak on Jan 29 2015, 11:30 PM |
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| poumtchak |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 10:15 AM |
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Does CCCP include ffdshow codecs? Cause I don't see the ffdshow settings in the program list.
EDIT: Nvm, problem is now solved.
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 01:27 PM |
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Just for your info, if you should still come back to read this ...
Actually, the most easy method to make that VirtualDub can open and read almost any kind of video-format (MP4, MOV, WMV, MKV, FLV, ...) and the video- (H264, AVC1, WMV, ...) and audio-codecs (AAC, AC3, MP3, ...) that have been used to compress it, is to download and install the FFMpeg inputplugin for VirtualDub, that you can find here (thanks to dloneranger):
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdub.../?source=navbar
There will be NO need for additional codecpacks or whatever.
Just unzip the files out of the correct xx-bit folder (that corresponds with the xx-bit - 32-bit or 64-bit - installation of VirtualDub).
Unzip the files and also the ffdlls-subfolder with its files to the pluginsxx subfolder of your VirtualDub-installation.
Also verify that you are actually using VirtualDub version 1.10.x (because the plugin does NOT work with version 1.9.11).
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| poumtchak |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 04:58 PM |
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Thank you for the help, I actually installed ffdshow and it now works properly. Should I delete CCCP from my computer? Should I uninstall CCCP + ffdshow and install the ffmpeg plugins instead? |
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| Abrazo |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 07:40 PM |
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No, there is no need to uninstall ffdshow or other codecs.
In fact, when VirtualDub opens an AVI, it needs to find a decoder for the "video" and a decoder for the "audio".
When it does not find any decoder that is able to read the video (MPeg4, DivX, Xvid, ...) or the audio, then you get an error message "Missing codec".
There are multiple kinds of video-decoders (Video for Windows / VfW, DirectShow, Windows Foundation, ...).
By default, VirtualDub can only use the VfW ones.
When you install ffdshow, it has two ranges/kinds of decoders: Video for Windows and DirectShow.
You can enable/disable particular decoders in ffdshow via its configuration settings.
When you have more than one decoder with the same functionality, then there is a range of "priority" between them,
but that should not immediately be important to you.
To make it possible to open video-formats - other than AVI - in VirtualDub, there are number of input-plugins available:
- DirectShow
- FFMpeg
- Matroska (MKV)
- FLV
- WMV
- ...
Some of these input-plugins, like DirectShow make it possible for VirtualDub to use the DirectShow-decoders that are installed onto your computer.
Other input-plugins, make it possible to open particular video-formats, but need additional VfW decoders (like the ones available via ffdshow)
An interesting input-plugin like FFMpeg has its own decoders available (in form of a subfolder with *.dll's)
Now, how to make the distinction between which input-plugin to use, when opening a file in VirtualDub ?
Simply, when in the "Open video file"-dialogbox of VirtualDub, first click once on the filename that you like to open, then at "Files of type:" select the desired input-plugin, then click the Open-button. |
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| poumtchak |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 09:09 PM |
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Thanks for the elaborate answer.
| QUOTE (Abrazo @ Jan 30 2015, 07:40 PM) | When you have more than one decoder with the same functionality, then there is a range of "priority" between them,
but that should not immediately be important to you.
To make it possible to open video-formats - other than AVI - in VirtualDub, there are number of input-plugins available:
- DirectShow
- FFMpeg
- Matroska (MKV)
- FLV
- WMV
- ...
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So these are the order of priorities for VirtualDub when I have several decoders plugins?
| QUOTE (Abrazo @ Jan 30 2015, 07:40 PM) | | Simply, when in the "Open video file"-dialogbox of VirtualDub, first click once on the filename that you like to open, then at "Files of type:" select the desired input-plugin, then click the Open-button. |
If I got it right, I have to choose the adequate input plugin according to the video format? |
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| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 09:40 PM |
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It seems like it is difficult to explain and so maybe difficult to understand ;-)
In fact you have file-formats, or name it better "container-formats" to hold video AND audio in it.
So, you have the container-formats like AVI, MP4, MKV, MOV, ...
In these files, compare it to boxes, there are (mostly one) video-track and (mostly one) audio-track.
These tracks are encoded/compressed on the hand of video-"codecs" like H.264, DivX, Xvid, ... and audio-"codecs" like MP3, AC3, AAC, ...
So, the media-player, or in this case : VirtualDub in the function of reader/player, has to use a "decoder"/decompressor (one for video and and another one for audio).
Mostly a codec has both functions ("compressor / decompressor" or name it "coder / decoder"). From there comes the word co-dec.
The operating system software on your computer, I suppose Windows, has a mediaplayer ( Windows Media Player ) that is delivered with a number of video- and audio de-coders (so with only one functionality : de-coding, NOT en-coding). When you install additional player-software and/or decoders (like ffdshow) from other manufacturers, you probably will have sooner or later two or more decoders with the same decoding functionality.
It is here that I mean that Windows uses a system of priority when there are more of those.
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When I talk about the "input-plugins", there is NO immediate priority between them. You can best select yourself the one that you prefer.
Why do I tell this ?
Because when you like to open for example an MP4, you can use the Directshow plugin for it, but you can also use the QuickTime plugin or the FFMPeg plugin to open it.
Or maybe I should better tell you, that some of the input-plugins have the ability to open more than one video-format. So, you can test and choose which plugin is the best suited for the job.
And so, if you ask me "Do I have to choose the adequate input plugin according to the video format ?", I would say "not necessarely".
You have the choice (depending on the possibilities of the input-plugin to open specific video-formats).
Try and find out.
(I hope it is finally a little more clear to you - with all my explanation...) |
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| poumtchak |
| Posted: Jan 30 2015, 10:37 PM |
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Bright clear. As a newbie in informatic, I didn't know the meaning of codec, your post is very helpful. Thank you! |
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