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| charlie6507 |
| Posted: Sep 30 2002, 01:59 AM |
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Got a JVC digital video camera with a direct 1394 feed into my laptop. Couldn't seem to capture it using virtualdub but did with windows movie maker, then tried to reprocess the file (saved as an avi) with virtualdub but couldn't decompress the file. Is there a codec I need or is there a better work around? Have been using virtualdub for quite a while and love it; appreciate finding a forum on it ... thanks a lot! |
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| John Cline |
| Posted: Sep 30 2002, 08:31 AM |
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Quite simply, Virtual Dub is not capable of capturing video via Firewire.
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| pathfinder |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 08:44 AM |
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Hi,
VDub indeed can't capture from IEEE1394, but it can read AVI DV type-2 files (files in witch audio is extracted from the original DV video+audio stream and saved in the AVI file in a separate stream alongside the DV video-only stream). I used to capture into such AVI by Sonic Foundry Video Capture (excellent program, though I'd wish I could recompress on the fly), one guy here used Ulead Video Studio 6.0 for the same task. Then you can process the file in VDub.
Well, if you can find DirectX 8.1 SDK you can use one of its sample programs called 'DV Sample' wich gives you an option to capture into type-2 DV AVI or you can build a DirectShow capture graph yourself. Though a better option for your DV TYPE 1 FILE in the last case would be to build a graph to split the DV video+audio stream into DV video + PCM audio and write in AVI (this one will be type 2) - it'll take a couple of minutes and you won't have to worry about audio-video synch. |
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| ChristianHJW |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 04:05 PM |
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Capture from Firewire :
www.editstudio.com
DV codec for AVI :
www.mainconcept.com
We should put these links into the FAQ some day ...
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Oct 28 2002, 05:24 PM |
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also try WinDV |
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| kmlo |
| Posted: Nov 3 2002, 02:01 PM |
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HI i am testing with DV too,
i use DVIO another siple freeware to capture. if i am not wrong, the capture thru firwire has nothing to do with codec, as long as you don;t recompress it.
i then use panasonic DVcodec. not as good as Mainconcept. but free.
i am testing to shoot in 4:3 aspect ratio and in colour, but my own output is 16:9 in B/W with some grain add in.
also add in time code too, i am training youn folks to do editing , so need to explain time code.
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| ChristianHJW |
| Posted: Nov 3 2002, 02:58 PM |
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kmlo,
thanks for this very good input. Can you post any links to the DVIO and Panasonic codec please ? I am very interested to test myself
Thanks in advance
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Nov 3 2002, 08:48 PM |
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AFAIK Panasonic´s codec is better than Mainconcept´s for one reason:
Panasonic´s doesn´t add sharpness to the image, so the image is faithfull to the original.
Christian, also remember WinDV.
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| kmlo |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 08:21 AM |
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HI, i have a bout 5 weeks to shoot a movie and edit on virtualdub with few trainees in PHNOM PENH. any guru want to give any comments, mostly welcome.
www.geocities.com/kmlo
for the panasonic dv codec i get it here:
www.student.oulu.fi/~miohtama/dv-editing-tips.html
DVIO
http://www.carr-engineering.com/dvio.htm.
I use DVIO for testing the set up of Firewire and also before adobe premeire 6.5 i use it to capture and output. small but might thing, another with some button to control is DVcap. very hard to find to dowlaod.
Panasonic codec, i disagree it's better, if u put effect on and recompress 5 times, then you compare to just did the same with Mainconcept. you will notice the difference, as i mention if just a copy and paste( means no effect on) any codec is more or less the same. even the MSDV codec can do a good job.
for my case i do colour shooting in 4:3 format progressive scan, then i put b/w filter/ tonal manuplation, grain, crop, subtitles and last time code
if i do it all in one shot may be take months to render. so i must recompress several times. on my celeron 700.
there's dirty way to do, use mainconcept codec demo, then last -use panasonic with crop to take the watermark away.
pls note that panasonic and mainconcpet cannot co-exist, so u need to r install it.
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| Morsa |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 08:59 AM |
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except for the grain you can do most of your tasks with Vdub.
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| kmlo |
| Posted: Nov 4 2002, 03:45 PM |
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Hi, more on DV codec
I just found this too.
http://www.rt2500.tv/download/goodies.html#vfwcodecs
also sony dv codec, i read many article says premeire user can swtich to sony or mainconcept using DVCswitch.
if my trainees are eating less than $0.5 meal /day , you can;t expect them to work like a bee. they are very new to digital video. technically it;s no need a month, but ... after all we are all human.i am actually using virtualdub to simulate the old time film editing. linear way. they have rush( divx 1/4 size capture in 25fps, sound track with 8bit sound)then trim and join label as the scene shot, put timecode so they know what is real situation without a singe frame of film being used, i think better learn the linear way to understand the NLE.
BTW i insist on using freeware to do it. so only MovieXone is free and running, sensibly too. i tried zeiwxx studio, like alien made software.
cheers
kmlo
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