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| i4004 |
| Posted: May 20 2004, 06:01 AM |
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past few days i was tinkering with this
http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/ii00i/optical/medi...a%20masking.htm
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| trevlac |
| Posted: May 20 2004, 03:23 PM |
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I love this stuff.... Perhaps I don't have to keep the kiddies away from all of those disc after all.
Can you give us a quick run down of conclusions so we don't have to read all of the threads? I know you want to make us work for this, but will a PAR file on a matching cdr work? Is that the idea?
- Assuming QuickPar works with your DVDR ISO, how big is the PAR file?
- How long to create?
- Perhaps the DVD recovery is different for different drives? You burned with that drive, and little time passed. Probably the best situation possible. |
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| i4004 |
| Posted: May 20 2004, 11:54 PM |
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| QUOTE | | Perhaps I don't have to keep the kiddies away from all of those disc after all. |
are they strong enough to break it?
| QUOTE | | I know you want to make us work for this, but will a PAR file on a matching cdr work? Is that the idea? |
that WAS the idea.....
now quickpar developer and i will try to see what's happening that prevents par2 from doing this as it should....
quickpar was 10% of the total filesize.it took 2hrs to make it on cel600 (cca.3.4gb use don dvd-rw, so 340mb of par files)
if you now asked me what is the good idea for backup,i wouldn't hesitate to say;make dvd-r copies of valuable stuff!
don't use quickpar now...it'll just be a waste of time and it won't really recover anything....
(and be sure not to damage inner tracks!tell your children too;"guys,the inner tracks...THE INNER TRACKS!"...  )
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| trevlac |
| Posted: May 21 2004, 12:35 AM |
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| QUOTE (i4004 @ May 20 2004, 05:54 PM) | if you now asked me what is the good idea for backup,i wouldn't hesitate to say;make dvd-r copies of valuable stuff!
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But didn't you conclude that DVD+R is better? Seems to be sound reasoning....
Basically .... +R allows the burner to better track the disc as it burns by reading various cue points from the blank as it burns. This in theory would allow a cleaner burn with fewer write errors. This seems to match tests done on cdrfreaks?
Now I only have a Pioneer 2x that only does -R, so it really does not matter to me which is better. Although -R seems to be cheaper.
One caveat would be that given the various drives and disc blanks available, the range of good to bad is probalby so wide for both + and - R that it would be silly to extrapolate conclusions to untested discs and drives. IOW: Good -R is better than shitty +R. |
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| i4004 |
| Posted: May 21 2004, 01:52 AM |
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| QUOTE | | But didn't you conclude that DVD+R is better? |
o...yes,that too ( )
i will use 'dvdr' word in general for future.....
offcourse,you can do your own tests to see if dvd+ is faster to read(when damaged)
,or if it has same robustness/readability as -rw i used here...
| QUOTE | | This seems to match tests done on cdrfreaks? |
yeap,that does....
| QUOTE | | Although -R seems to be cheaper. |
aha!i knew you'll come around!
| QUOTE | | I only have a Pioneer 2x |
well...you can't say that burners are expensive either,can you?
<gigantic smiley here>
| QUOTE | | Good -R is better than shitty +R. |
i say!
there is a tool for this dvd burner that can identify errors(same as there's k-probe for lite-on)
but one trouble;since i got it,i'm not burning at all...i'm instead waiting to fill the 4.7gb...huh.....
(so i'm not buying + or -....4 dvdr's(AHA!) are waiting to be burned....and they are all "-"(HAHA!))
remember,mpeg4..and now i saw some h264 (x.264) samples.....even lower bitrates!
(so i'll wait,and i'll wait(to fill 4.7gb)..untill my hdd dies...  )
i think we need not worry....the ritek stuff seems fine to me....i bought one 'traxdata' blank..it was ritek too...didn't had the fancy label as your stuff,but dvdr's don't need it anyway,as burning layer is sandwiched between 2 layers of polycarbonate...so it won't get peeled-off...
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| trevlac |
| Posted: May 21 2004, 02:44 AM |
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| QUOTE | "I only have a Pioneer 2x"
well...you can't say that burners are expensive either,can you?
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hell i'm wait'n ona dual 8x commin down 2 round 1 Ben Franklin. US$ that is.
An common, I wuz hoppin you'd come round to my way a thinkin' .. American that is ...
Burn those DVDrs just for the smell. Crank up da bitrate! Keeps those factories goin' on the main land ... China that is ...
Heck, fer lunch I got myself one of them there buy 1 Big Mac get 1 free deals. I et half of each and threw the other half away.
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Sorry for the english, but I've decided to start talking this way. Much harder than you may think.  |
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| i4004 |
| Posted: May 21 2004, 02:54 AM |
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aaaa....yes...i can understand you at last!
NOW you're talking!
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| arachnotron |
| Posted: May 22 2004, 05:51 PM |
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Hey Ivo,
When I first saw your pictures and had not read the text yet , I thought "Now THAT is what I call testing to destruction "
Be very carefull with sticking stuff on CD's and DVD's turning at high speeds. I've seen some spectacular drive failures caused by CD labels getting loose and bringing a disk out of balance.... |
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